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This board is multifaceted, crossing various topics from New Age, spirituality, metaphysical, psychology, physical issues, relationships, emotions, self-help and more. It is created for those who seek change and desire to empower themselves, to live life as an expression of who they really are in unconditional love. If you think/feel that your life and this world full of denial, fear and unlovingness is totally opposite what you desire, it is no coincidence that you are here.

To say that this board will be controversial is an understatement as it goes against almost everything society presently believes to be true about emotions, feelings, life and love. But then why wouldn't it be controversial if the desire and goal is the opposite of what is presently being experienced! To empower yourself, you need to be open to challenge everything you believe to be true, especially about love, life, emotions and feelings and also be willing to end your denials of self.

I openly share the knowledge, tools, messages and insights that I've gained through sixteen years of intensive personal experience and in working with others on their journey. Feel free to visit the various forums and posts and to also add your personal experiences, comments and questions. It is my intent that the ideas and works that will be discussed within this forum will not only expand your consciousness, but also activate your emotions and touch your heart.

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Hi Jannokes,

To answer your question you need to really think and feel what you have said.... If ....as you say... "you've done all you can to heal him/her...but pain continues...where do you look then?" The question is not general but actually very specific... as is the answer.... you have not healed it....you only "think" you have...

Let me put it this way... if you are fighting a forest fire and you think have put it out but a few hours or days later it flares back up.... was your thinking that it was put out correct and accurate? Of course not... it was still smoldering and alive under somethiing that you missed...

Like I think I mentioned in a previous post, our inner child is one that we are aware of.. it's our outer child, the one that we are not conscious of that we really need to heal and is the hardest to heal...

Although you may now have awareness of your outer child and have tried to heal him... if you are not "walking your talk" and being forthright and honest with expressing your feelings and emotions in the moment, the "NOW" that you are experiencing them, then you are also not being honest with him as that is what he is... feelings, emotions and intuition energy. Every time you DENY them in your present physical world experiences, you also deny him... and so the cycle continues...

When I say express your emotions, I'm not talking about the "false emotions" whereby we blame some other person, place or thing, or ourself for our feelings. I mean being aware and expressing what really lies beneath the surface... Just like the forest fire... You need to get beneath the surface to fine the REAL fire or emotions and express them.. get them out and moving if healing is your intent...

Start where we left off and re-read the last few posts to get a "feel" for what I'm talking about and what it was that you missed...

I have tears in my eyes my friend as I can feel the love in your search to heal yourself... and also your confusion with all the Belief Systems that you have come to accept..... not only as truth... but as love...

John
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Reply On the road to Now-Here
Hey John, my real friend and teacher!

First I would like to make up for the lost time and wish you the very best 2007 and all the ease you need to discover your truth!

Then I would also like to thank you grandiosely for pushing my life in a direction i never thought would lead me anywhere...but it did and it lead me towards a better 'self'. Everything that could have been 'done' between me and my mother has been done and I can now tell you that she is as much a loving human being as i am and as are you...not at all the monster my mind used to think she was. She now realizes the damage she has done and she has taken all the responsibility for all that she knows she did to me that hurt me. Of course it's a road of no return and for the wounds to heal it will take decades...but i feel much newer/stronger now and willing to fight back.

Now i admit that i have no idea what is the difference between the inner child and the outer child! It has come to me as a complete surprise that there are 2 childs now.

I'll read your last response to me again and i'll try to see what i've missed.

I'm still actively discovering all my shattered fragments through all ages. In the last night's meditation i found my 14-year-old self again and reconnected. He is now telling me what caused him such pain...for him to want to leave me.

Thank you for your kind lovingness!

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From that particular moment that you pointed out dear John I boldly admit that i was unconcsciously playing the part of a plonker and denying my own truth and hurting my young self again...the question is though: why would i want to create a situation like that? I can't see it...

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Hi Janno,

While you may now be aware of and "know" the truth.. the question remains... Will you walk your truth? Or is it just "@#%$ chat" to pretend and fool that part of you.... and yourself, into believing that you have changed.... Now that you are aware of how unloving energy and your denials hurt these parts of you originally, your so-called "higher self" is now asking you to take personal responsibility of your mind, emotions, feelings, intuition and body. Are you going to allow "others" of unloving energy to influence your mind, to get you to control and deny the other parts of you and continue to "play dumb" pretending that unloving energy and denial is still not going to cause similar issues and pains it did in the past.

If healing and living in unconditional love is your intent, then the universe will give you every opportunity to "prove" and heal yourself by bringing forward, similar situations for you to experience in order for you to "choose." To either continue playing the denial game or to be self aware of your denials and to choose to end them. Be aware though, that the more you are aware of your denials and choose to continue to choose denial over expression of truth, then the experiences become harder and more difficult as now denial is also more imbedded in your consciousness that expressing the truth.

Once you are "real", and are no longer playing the "denial game," you will see, hear and feel things in a "different" light.... the light of unconditional love, and not the conditional love you have been used to all your existence. .

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Reply Chuffed.
I choose total control of my feelings and no more denials. The question is only how to see the difference between what my hearts wants and what is a denial. I think it'll take me a long time to start seeing an actual line between those 2. Up to now i've had everything together inside the same box (sort of like life as a stream of events happening without the understanding of what is happening and why).
I guess i've learnt to see when i'm hurting inside and i've learnt to deal with it and see why this pain happened and what can be done to prevent it from repeating itself(in a way that doesn't harm anyone else, but instead find a solution that benefits everyone...equally, because most of my pain is because of inequalities: i feel that i'm unequal and other people are so far and hard to reach).


What do we normally deny? Do we deny ourselves a better life full of joy (by denying sadness we deny happiness)? Or do we deny ourselves growth (we deny all kinds of pain)? That's probably a very personal area and depends on an individual...

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Also i would like you to explain to me what is the difference between an inner child and an outer child?

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Hi Janno,

I'm not picking on you, merely pointing out your confusion and contradiction of intent. You start by saying, "I choose total control of my feelings and no more denials." The words "Control" and "no more denial" in conflict with each other because you can only have total control if you deny... Now if you had chosen to say, "I choose to release control of my feelings and to end my denials of them" now there is no conflict in that statement of healing intent.


Trying to "prevent" a painful experience from happening AGAIN is not the same as healing the original pain and issues. They are two different issues and experiences... They may be similar and connected, but they are not the same. If they were the same... then there would only be one, Example... Two apples on a table are similar in appearance but they are not the same. I see one apple on the table and you see one apple on the same table.. now in this case, we are looking at the same apple..

Healing also isn't about finding a way to make "everyone" happy, it's about healing you. Again you are confused and on two different pages, but thinking they are the same page.
(Page one) is about making everyone happy....
(Page two) is about healing your pain that is making you unhappy.

I feel that what I'm going to say next is only going to confuse you all the more but before you can begin to heal and become one, you need to begin to identify and become aware of the separate and different parts of you. After you have done that, you then need to become aware of what is you and what is not you but belongs to another. Simplifying it into physical terms.. You need to become aware that you have two hands, a left and a right and how they work and what they do. Then you also need to become aware of the other parts of your body. So far so good... OK...

Now you are sitting in a dark room and you feel a scratching on your head. You are confused and to gain understanding, you need to determine if it is one of your hands that is doing the scratching. If not, then it must be coming from another source. Now to carry this scenario on a little further.. If the scratching is from an outside source and not your hand, then you need to "feel" if this scratching is painful or if it is pleasant? Loving or unloving? I'll leave you with that as some "food for thought"

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Hi Janno,

Briefly, The inner child is that aspect of you that you have repressed but one that you still have some conscious awareness of. Example, the kids at school laughed at your drawing of an elephant. You now hate drawing. You say that you can't draw and so this belief in programmed into your conscious and subconscious mind to the point that you go through life believing that you can't draw. While this was traumatic experience, you didn't fragment as you are still aware of the original experience. Now if this was repeated over and over, then there is the possibility that you could also fragment.

The outer child is created by a more traumatic experience or repeated experiences where you no longer have any conscious awareness of that event or events. You were either confused and in shock or you blacked out and lost consciousness (example a car accident) and when you finally woke up.. Dahl! what happened, I don't remember. While your mind may not remember what happened, your body is totally aware of the entire experience, including your feelings and emotions that were unexpressed.

In the case of traumatic shock, it's the overwhelming confusion and disbelief of what you are experiencing. You deny that it's happening to you to the point that you fragment parts of your emotional and mental body out of the rest of you as a means of what you think is survival. In this case, you deny the part of you that is "feeling" what it is, because your mind can't accept the reality that such and unloving experience is really happening to you.

Now an important aspect of fragmentation is also the persons inability to express all the emotions that they are feeling during the experience and also any body movements that they were unable to perform. This denial of emotional and physical expression is what locks this part of you outside of the rest of your physical and energy being. There's more.... a lot more to all this and it also gets complicated as it merges with layers of other experiences and issues. But, not to discourage you.. healing is possible... I know...

John
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Shenreed,

I just want to say how wonderful you are, wow ,what a giving soul . The way you write and explain the difficult subjects is wonderful to. I beleive you are to be commended on your honesty truthfulness, which is based on experience for one dose not get the information you give without living the experience. Anyway I just wanted to acknowledge the effort I can see you are making.

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Hi SoulWork,

Read your post and had tears in my eyes as I felt that you have honestly felt what I'm been writing and yes, I've lived every moment of it.

At the same time I have a question for you as to why are you blue and sad. As I wrote that sentence, I felt a heart-break, an heart-ache that seems to have no end...

What you are searching for you will find.... within you...

It's nice to meet a kindred Soul and Spirit emoticon

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